An extremely heavy volume on the list a few days ago combined with crimelab.com being down has been creating some problems with the bugtraq list.. there are over 40,000 mails in need of delivery right now. I have removed crimelab.com from the delivery lists.. we haven't heard from him at all in a while so there's really nothing else we can do. Bugtraq is now being distributed from another machine but the backlogged ones will continue to be processed. kevin -- kevintx@fc.net support@fc.net (see also kevintx@paranoia.com) Freeside Communications (512) 339-6094 *Internet Access for the Future!*